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The default I/O voltage on BE6-II with the PO BIOS is 3.3V, with the SH BIOS it is 3.5V. Which is the proper one? Which should I use? I have a Leadtek WinFast GF2MX.
From: Piotr Bakowski
I emailed Abit about the voltage. Here's the reply I got:

The proper one is 3.3 Volts, but we raised it because some Geforce 256 cards could not work with the 3.3 Volt setting.

Well I thought it was the sound card so i tried changing my sb live value with a mx300 from my other comp. both soundcards work fine on the older computer but the be6-II seems to hate the guts outta the dos emulation.
1) I cant install the SOB soundcard cause it comes up with about 4 BSD errors. messages
2) I dont know how to disable dos emulation.
From: JeffyD
Although mine worked in PCI 1, that slot shares with the AGP card so 2 or 4 would be better.

If you don't have the latest SB drivers get them to solve problems.

Right click My Computer, choose Properties, go to Device Manager, find Creative Misc Devices/Creative SB16 Emulation, right click it and choose Properties, and check the box "Disable in this hardware profile". That should disable DOS emulation.

I o/c'ed Celeron 566@860 with Iwill Sloket2 by BE6-II (SH bios), pc100 128 ram, Voodoo3 3000. It passed 3DMark 2k at 2947 and worked stable. However, there is no beep and nothing on screen at the first boot, after pressing 'reset', it works and everything is going well. I have to boot and 'reset' every time when I use my machine. I supposed it was power supply problem. Today, I replaced it with the Max Power Supply 300w (Taiwan made), but still nothing happens at the first boot, it still needs 'reset' to let it work.
From: Shannon Harmon
I had the exact same problem and tried everything I could think of and nothing. Then one day when playing with the voltage, I set it a little bit higher and the problem went away. So I set it back to normal and the problem was there again, change back to a bit higher and gone. Not that it will work for you, but it did me just fine. I was sure glad, it was very annoying to have to reset after a reboot:) I have since purchased a different cpu and the problem went away all together.
Thanks. It is already 1.75v. What is yours?
From: KingOfNothing
I have exactly the same problem .. I also started to play with the voltage and set the adapter to 1.9 default and the problem went away. I have 566@850 but the same thing used to happen @566 too. Maybe the voltage tweak will help you.

From: paresa
For GeForce2 GTS owners with problems whereby it will not "post" and display nothing on a cold boot, read this: http://www.insanehardware.com/articles.php?i=00003

NOTE: The above link appears to have been removed (fixed again as of 10/21/2000). I found a reference to the article on another page with this recap: Jeff

From: Nicholas
Thanks for your answer to my posting earlier concerning the problem of my BE6 system always hang after installing the new IBM-DTLA-307020 on ide4 as master. I've finally got it working. This is just to share with you all (just in case if I'm not the one who make the wrong assumption) how I've resolved it and hopfully helping others out.

My new IBM-DTLA-307020 supports UDMA mode 5 and should be backward compatible. I assume that this backward compatibility is automatic and I've just plug it on ide4 and pray. It doesn't work. The system became stable after I manually configured the DTLA to UDMA mode 4 using IBM's IBMATASW utility.

I'm not sure it's the problem of hpt366 or we've to set the UDMA mode manually. It's strange that even if I didn't set the UDMA mode manually, IBM DFT utility shows that UDMA mode 4 is active on the DTLA ?!

Anyway, its up and running now. Thanks !

I just bought a BE6-II revision 1.2. I have a Maxtor DiamondPlus 20GB ATA/66 HD on the HPT 370 IDE controller. When the ATA/66 controller bios comes up, it detects my HD as a singledrive, not a boot drive. Fdisk shows that BE6-II is detecting a boot drive (no letter) of only 96bytes in size. As a result, I am not able to install Windows since it automatically tries to install to that phantom drive. Any idea?
From: Homer
Did you use maxblast to prepare the drive?

If yes then remove maxblast and easy bios from the drive and use fdisk and format c:/s

Also you should prep the drive and install windows from IDE 1 with the bios set to auto detect. And a minimum of system components.

Whenever I enter PC Health Status in the BIOS it will hang after 5-10 sec & I must reboot. Sometimes when I try to enter BIOS I only get a black screen with a horizontal blue rectangle about 1cm high going along the entire length of the bottom of the screen. This happens about 1 in every 5 times I try to enter BIOS & again I must reboot. I loaded the fail-safe defaults & the problems still occur. Should I try to return the board? It always boots normally into win98.
From: TechSupport, FAE Department, ABIT
If your system would hang while entering "PC Health Status" option, this might be caused by your CPU fan. Some CPU fans would produce noise signals that disturb RPM monitoring.

You may do a simple test to verify if this is the identical cause of your system malfunction:

Please connect your CPU fan at FAN3 (located at the right-bottom part of your BE6-2 board), and check the PC Health Status part. FAN3's rotation speed cannot be reported, so any noise signal from your CPU fan won't affect.

I'm using a BE6-2 that I've had about 2 months or so. Until recently I had no problems to speak of until one day the drives started all running in dos-compatibility mode. I've been trying everything I can think of but so far the only success I've had is working around the problem by moving my drives from the old IDE1/2 UDMA33 ports to the IDE3/4 UDMA66 ports. All my hard drives are working just peachy now, but my CD-ROM drive (which I left on the old controller as instructed) won't be recognized by windows.

However, I can use the old DOS CD drivers and run the cd-rom in dos-compatibility mode.

The device manager shows the "exclamation mark" on the Primary and Secondary IDE controllers, and basically any drive on IDE 1 or 2 runs in compatibility mode. I've tried moving around my cards, reserving IRQ's, upgrading my bios, using the new chipset drivers from intel, all kinds of things, but no soap. Maybe it's something terribly obvious I've overlooked, but I think I've wasted enough nights of my life trying to figure it out without asking for help, so I'm hoping I might find a little joy here. Thanks
From: Steve
Search for NOIDE in the registry.
Remove the registry key(s), or set to zero, and reboot.
Wow!! That worked like a charm, thanks!

I wonder how that silly little line got in there in the first place? ; )

What is the best way to make a boot floppy in Windows2000 so I can upgrade my bios on my motherboard?

Can I just make one on a win98 machine with the old format a: /s ??
From: Mark
Yeah.. as far as I know you have to make your boot floppy in win9x because you can't in Windows 2000.. so go ahead and make it in Windows 98 it will work fine.

From: Kyle
I made an earlier post about an issue I was experiencing with my BE-6 II (The original post is listed below). Basically, I was having trouble after shutting down my PC and trying to reboot it. It would basically just sit there never coming up. Some people made some fine suggestions, but to no avail, it still wouldn't come up properly but about 10-30% of the time.

Last night I decided to experiment to see if I could localize the trouble. Here are the steps I took.
  1. Disconnected all the harddisks (5 in my case) and the cd-rom and the floppy. -- No Improvement, same issue.
  2. I removed all my PCI and ISA cards, except the the video card. -- Booted up perfectly, ten tries in a row.
  3. Reconnected my harddisk. -- Still booted up perfectly, ten times in a row.
  4. Started adding cards back in one at a time. I started with my ISA card and moved toward the APG slot. --First card I added back in was the ISA card (a Motorola 56K modem) Issues started again.
  5. Removed the Modem and tried the system again. --Works perfectly.
  6. Started adding the rest of my cards back in, one at a time and testing multiple times to ensure correct operation.
  7. I was able to add the rest of my cards back in with no issues. --This told me my issue lay with the modem.
  8. By chance I had a spare USR 56K ISA modem at the house so I tossed it in the machine. --Booted up perfectly.
In the end, it wasn't my motherboard, it was a peripheral instead. I was wrongfully blaming the incorrect perpetrator.

My advice to people with similar boot-up issues is invested the necessary time and at least localize the issue so you can in fact solve the issue. I'm not saying that Abit boards never have issues, but take the time to identify if it really is your motherboard giving you trouble. (BTW I purchased a BE-6 for a customer and pulled a switch a roo on my board for the new one, when the issues continued is what prompted me to start digging in deeper)

After solving this issue, I have begun overclocking it. I started out at 8.5x75 -- up to 8.5x83 -- then 8.5x100 -- At the moment I am at 8.5x112 (952 Mhz) and still no lockups. UT and Q3 run flawlessly.
From: Stargazer
Thanks for the feedback, Kyle! So many problems _aren't_ mainboard related, but unless someone does the detective work you did, they'll never know. --Joel

P.S. There are some compatibility settings in the BIOS for legacy ISA issues you could try if you ever want to attempt to get the old ISA card running again... but it sounds like it wouldn't be worth the trouble.

I have seen this before and have read all the FAQs in this group. My motherboard KA7 should work. Powers up, Fans run but no beeps, hard drive spins. But alas the Floppy light does not come on or try to spin (even when the HDD is disconnected) Is this board a gonner...:(
From: GTS
I had a problem like this with a be6. If you hold down the insert key while powering up or resetting, it will use bios defaults. if it goes further than it normally does, you know some bios setting(s) are set wrong (cpu softmenu will do this easy)

After much instability with my BE6-II I decided to do things over. I moved my Maxtor 13GB drive to IDE1 and CD-ROM to IDE2. I disabled the UDMA/66 controller and I still cannot get windows to install properly. Usually during the install, sometime after the plug and play detection is done, a part of the windows install with GPF. This usually doesn't prevent the install from stopping and it completes. However when the system reboots I either get a blue screen of death or Windows says it "has an error accessing the system registry". If I get the registry error Windows never seems to fix it, each time the system boots I get this error. I've tried also turning off DMA and the L1 and L2 cache, plus installing directly from the harddrive instead of the CD. Any help would be appreciated.
From: JeffyD
Are you able to access the OS in safe mode and check Device Manager for "!"'s? Maybe a "Force Update ESCD" in the BIOS would help. Make sure you have the latest drivers, especially the SB Live and HPT (v1.25).

If desperate reformat the HDD and start fresh using the 40 lead cable, the HDD switched to UDMA33 via Maxtor's software, and the HDD on IDE 1. If your proc has L1 & 2 cache do not disable them. You might also want to load optimal defaults in the BIOS and check ALL settings.
From: TomG
Did you format again and start from complete scratch after moving the drive?
From: Stargazer
What processor? Is the SB Live in a safe slot? (With the HPT controller disabled, there are a couple more safe slots.) If you are using a Coppermine processor, do you have the 11/1999 or 05/2000 driver update from Creative?

What does the GPF say? Sometimes there's a clue in the referenced DLL or .EXE. What slot has the NIC? What IRQs are shared? Amongst what devices?

System registry errors might also stem from a bad/corrupted format. Did you reformat since you moved the drive to IDE1? Other sources of registry errors include OVER-overclocking and defective or mis-seated RAM. Have you boosted the CPU's core voltage if you are overclocking?

Have you relaxed the memory timing? Have you lowered the I/O voltage? RV defaults to 3.5v to support the most recent video cards. Your V550 doesn't need the higher voltage and your RAM might not like it, so you might try 3.4 volts, or even 3.3.

Sometimes the mainboard is flexed, or the cards are not properly seated in their slots. Removing the bracket screws and loosening the mainboard screws might help to identify this problem. Reseat the cards and make sure you don't have to flex the brackets to screw them back in.

For bootup troubles, what adjustments can be made to give hardware like vid cards and HDD's more time to power up?
From: TomG
There is a setting called "Delay IDE Initial (sec)" in the Advanced Bios properties screen... this pauses the system during post to allow drives to spin up...

My computer is locking up on me. Help!
From: Stargazer (Joel)
Possible solutions: Relax memory timings. Change CPU core voltages. Change I/O voltages. Of course, disable HPT controller completely if you are using a Promise controller. Make sure cards are in the slots that prevent IRQ and bus master conflicts. Make sure cards fit properly in their slots. Improve CPU cooling. Try with only one stick of memory. If you have two sticks, try them in different slots, like 1&3 or 2&3. Check that the power supply is 250W or better; if you have a high-powered video card or more than one drive, try 300W or better. Increase the amount of fiber in your diet.

Another possibility: If you are using the same drive without reinstalling your OS and software, there might be some left-over corrupt stuff on the drive from the bad ol' days.
From: Cowboy
For me, apparently all it took was uninstalling Critical Update Notification v3.0 from Windows Update.

Used to freeze within 5 to 120 minutes of a reboot.

It has now been over 24 hours since I removed it and it has not locked up yet.

Its worth a try if you have it installed.

Anyone got any advice regarding which PCI slots to use for my soundcard/graphics/modem? Does it matter? I remember reading on this NG about avoiding slot 3 because of the Highpoint controller.
From: JeffyD
Try to stay away from 3 & 5, especially 5.

What works well for me is a SB Live on 1, LinkSys NIC on 2, and a Supra modem on 4. Vid is AGP, a Viper TNT2 Ultra.
From: TEQ
Slot 1 shares IRQ with AGP, A lot of the recent AGP cards do not like to share an IRQ, can cause a performance hit.
From: hiqdan
slot 1 will share with most tv/dvd cards, slot 2 almost anything, slot 3 nics, slot 4 almost anything, slot 5 nothing(unless you disable HPT366). some have luck with sound in slot 1 , but not many.

Homer

Right now I am using the PL BIOS on my BE6, if I flash to either QP or PV my system will hang if my IDE controllers are enabled. Here's what I have installed in the BE6:

P3-450
(2) 128MB DIMMS (Micron, one pc PC100 CAS2 other is PC133 CAS2)
SB Live!
TNT2 Ultra (Diamond viper)
Adaptec 2940UW
3Com 3C905 Ethernet adapter.
3GB Quantum and 9GB IBM Hard drives

The Hard drives are both SCSI and I have a ZIP drive set as the master on the primary IDE channel. With the PL BIOS everything works fine. If I flash to QP or PV BIOS then my system will hang right after the blue highpoint screen if the IDE channel is enabled. If I disable the channel, then the system will boot, but I cannot use the ZIP drive.

Anyone have insight on this?

Thanks,
Jesse
From: Ashot Akopyan

I had the same problem and I know how to fix that. What you want to do is:

Go into the BIOS menu and change your primary IDE channel detection (where your ZIP drive is connected) from AUTO to NONE. The BIOS will not detect the ZIP drive after that, but your WINDOWS98 will.

Good luck,
Ashot
Setting the primary IDE channel to "none" worked. Not really intuitive, but it works. W2K recognized the ZIP drive correctly.

Thanks,
Jesse

From: Heiko

After having read a lot of threads concerning the boot-problem with the overclocked BE6-II, may be you want to give this a try:
The only thing I had to do, was to disable the auto-function of my Slot 1 - FCPGA-Adapter and to set it to a higher Core-Voltage manually (in my case it's 1.7 V). It seems as if the BE6-II somehow refers to the Default-Core-Voltage when (re-)booting. After my changes were done, the soft-menu showed me 1.7 V as default (you still can increase or decrease the Core-Voltage in the soft-menu as usual, only the default is set to 1.7 V), and I had not a single boot-failure since then. HTH

Bye,
Heiko

What's "ENSTR" ?
From: Klemen Kovaeie

It means: ENable Suspend To Ram. It is a part of ACPI functions, like Suspend to Disk, alias Hibernate.

I wrote to Jeremy Smith (he's an ABIT employee, I guess?!?) about this function (if it will be ever enabled in BIOS) and here is his answer:

Probably not. The STR specs are very difficult to enable, (as opposed to STD).

You have to be able to make it happen within a certain number of seconds. We are looking more at future boards for this.

Thanks,
Jeremy
ABIT

My BE6-II never boots up when I power it on (with the power on switch).
It will boot up after I press reset.
Sometimes I have to press reset 2,3,4 times before it boots up.
Any suggestions on what the issue is here.
I tried a new 300Watt power supply. Same problem.
From: Chuck
I solved the problem by tinkering with the BIOS settings. As best I can explain it, ABIT has a separate bios chip for UDMA. On the BE6-II there are 4 IDE connectors allowing a theoretical 8 IDE drives. IDE 1&2 for standard IDE and IDE 3&4 for UDMA-66-IDE.

I had no connections to the IDE 1&2.
IDE3 connected to UDMA-66 Hard Drive.
IDE4 connected to CD-ROM. (MB Documentation recommends against connecting CD-ROM to the UDMA BIOS but it works).

BIOS Settings:
First boot device: floppy
Second boot device: UDMA66
Third boot device: HDD-0

When I changed the third boot device to "floppy", the problem was solved.
From: TomG
Good post... thanks for the update. I set mine to be CDROM > Floppy > UDMA66. Since you will never be booting to hdd-0 it, as you found out, does not need to be in the sequence.

I just replaced a BX6r2 with a BE6-II and ran into the following:

1) I cannot get the IDE channels, primary or secondary to even 'find' the IDE drive -- they do find the CDROM

2) The drive works, because I stuck a promise ultra33 board into the pc, and booted that way. Also, as you see below, the ATA66 finds the drive.

3) Tried switching over to the ATA66 -- machine boots, gets to the point where it has prompted for the drivers, finds the best drivers on the floppy, then starts to read the floppy and hangs. -- I did this several times, and it hangs whether I let it go through the hardware upgrade dialog or I cancel out of it.

4) Tried rebooting from the promise card without anything attached to it, still goes through the same find best available driver etc. then hanges on the second read from the floppy.

Machine works fine with the promise card, but this is dumb, not being able to use the motherboard ide channels. I've built about 1 dozen pc's using abit boards and never had a problem before.

Is this a dead board ?? Ideas anyone ???
From: TomG

For the regular ide channels, you gotta go into the bios setup and select auto on each channel where it says none... this fooled me several times because I just thought it was detecting none but that is an override to force none. also, while you're there, set the mode to auto as well.

As for the hpt controller, I would recommend that you first try getting the drive going on the regular channels and then get the driver for the hpt controller installed before you actually try to hang a drive on the channel. Don't know what bios you are at or what rev. drivers you have but the newest regular bios for BE6-II is RV and has 1.22 hpt bios in it and there is a beta version of RV with 1.25 hpt bios. the newest drivers are 1.25. the revision of bios does*not* have to match the revision of driver.

Also, be aware that the hpt controller uses resources on the mobo just like a pci card does. It will require the bus mastering signals from slot 5 so that no card can go in slot 5 unless you are *sure* it is a non bus master card. also, the hpt controller will require an irq and shares the irq signals with whatever is in slot 3 so any card in slot 3 needs to play nice and share the irq without locking up.

HPT Driver Update

I am curious as to why, when performing this upgrade to the software drivers, Win98 SE reports that I am trying to replace the miniport driver with an older version (rec keep existing). Looking at the file dates and property version the "older" file is definitely newer. The version is 1.24 as opposed to 1.22

Also none of the HighPoint files indicate 1.25 but 1.24?

I have renamed "newer" verson in iosubsys and copied older version in. Seems to work so far.

Bios also been upgraded to report 1.25 with RV Beta which also seems to work. Reason for upgrade was to overcome the usual hang during shutdown of W98SE.

Keeping fingers crossed but seems OK so far
From: TomG
Known problem with the new drivers... suggestion is that you allow overwrite of "newer" file. Highpoint just did not keep internal version numbers in sequence.

Since fitting the TNT2 video card (agp) on booting the computer all is normal until windows starts up then the monitor drops into standby so no display.

If I boot with the monitor switched off then wait until the computer has booted I can then switch the monitor on and all is okay. I am running windows 98.
From: TomG
Problem with drivers? Did you get all the old drivers out and the new video drivers installed? Many video card manufacturers recommend setting the adapter to Standard PCI VGA adapter and rebooting, then installing the new drivers. Or, before installing the new hardware, setting the card to Standard PCI VGA adapter and rebooting, then take the machine down and installing the new hardware. Many video related problems are the result of leftover drivers getting mixed in with current drivers.

I want to get a DVD and a CDRW and I have the BE6-2 board; What IDE should I put what in!??!
TomG:
On ide 1 or 2 only.
From: Chelsea_Oilman
I agree with TomG about using ide1 or ide2 and would add that the CD-RW should be set as master on whichever ide cable you use as extra insurance against creating coasters with the CD-RW drive.

I've just built myself a PC using an ABit 6x4 main board. I've had no previous experience of this. Its a PII400 with 128mb memory, AGP graphic card 20gb hdd and so on and so on. However when powering on I dont get a video signal. The hdd led flashes, as does the keyb, I get a speaker beep and the CD Rom spins for a short time.

Whats likely to be the problem? Could this be a bad main board or some other problem? Absolutely nothing appears on the monitor at all. I may as well not have it connected!
From: Jeff
Things to try:

1. Reseat the memory and/or vid card and/or proc and check that the vid card flange is flush with the case before screwing it down.
2. Make sure the memory is fast enough (PC100+ best bet, not sure about 66), this got me with the same symptoms when I first built mine. The PII needed PC100.
3. Check the monitor cable for a bad connection at the back of the monitor if it is removeable, mine is very sensitive and easily breaks the connection
From: TomG
Also check for shorted mobo by dismounting the board if nothing else helps.

Has the "Update ESCD" BIOS setting helped anyone? This "temp" setting in the BIOS resets the Extended System Configuration Data. What exactly does it do and has it helped anyone?
From: TomG
ECSD actually contains important setup info and, yes, I have had it help when I have something bizarre happening, or I make a ton of changes to cards, I usually like to purge that info...

Okay here is a question regarding the pci brige. Do I need to install this for everything to work correctly. I found it on my disk that came with the motherboard. I tried installing it and it rebooted my machine tried installing a bunch of stuff and then told me to enter my Windows98 cd only to find out that my cdroms had not initialized, so it couldn't find it. So now I have two areas within my windows system setup that have question marks. The first one is the pci bridge and the second which is new to me is the pci media or something. If anyone could spread some light on the issue of the PCI bridge, I would greatly appreciate it.
From: TomG
Yes, you do. The OS does not install a correct driver.
From: Blex
Definitely you need to, installing that took away my random freeze problems.

I just downloaded the latest bios BEHRV.EXE for the BEII motherboard and successfully installed it.. My OS is win98se and the problem that has occured since installing the new bios is when I go to shutdown. After doing a shut down it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left corner and doesn't power down my system.. I have to manually press the power button to turn off my computer.. Is there a fix or patch for this? Please help
From: SecretSquirrel
Microsoft has documented over 3,000 distinct problems that prevent windows from controlling the auto shutdown feature of BX motherboards. Luckily, you will only have to try a few...

In order:

1) Reset your ESCD..it's the maintained table that assigns IRQ's and such to your hardware.
2) Remove and re-install your Networking protocols. The tcp/ip stack is notorious for preventing shutdown.
3) Re-assign your audio IRQ's . Shared IRQ's with audio equipment such as soundblaster cards are a likely candidate.
4) Remove and re-install your Windows Plug-and-Play BIOS. It's a small step that effectively resets Windows as far as the installed hardware is concerned. Easy to do, but hard to control.
5) Disable shared IRQ's.
6) Go back to the old BIOS

Typically, removal of the Network adapters, or protocols will do the trick. I think your ESCD assumed a poor auto-configuration and that your NIC and sound card are sharing an IRQ.

Of course, tell me you don't have a NIC and make me look silly!

Just so happens that I too am in the same predicament (bad flash, no boot). I have made the boot floppy with the autoexec and that doesn't help because the POST doesn't get that far. I don't even get the video card's post that shows before the MB post.

So, what is involved in hot flashing the chip? Or is it one of those that if I have to ask I can't do it...
From: TomG
Hot flashing is where you take the chip out and install it into another computer that uses the same kind of chip *after* the other computer is booted to a bare dos environment and then flash your chip in that computer using the correct flash utility and bios image for your computer. The hot flash computer does not have to be the same model mobo just has to use the same type of bios chip.

As for the boot block part of the bios... that is supposed to work with either isa video or even no video. If the system won't even boot, you either really did a number on the bios or there is another issue.
Answer:
I really did a number...breaker popped just as flashing started. I think that means that right now I have a blank BIOS.

I tried the hot flash with my Soyo board which is also a BX chipset with Award BIOS and it work! Thanks, you saved me from shipping charges and who knows what else with getting a new BIOS from Abit.
From: TomG
A "risky" procedure but I am glad to hear it worked! Couldn't have made the bios chip any worse than it was...

I have a P3 700 overclocked to 847 (7 x 121) Pc133 SDRAM and when ever I restart windows or change bios setting and save them my computer just hangs(have to power off and back on again) can anybody help.
From: Nick Mattocks
You're pushing it too hard. In my experience this seems to be a graphics card problem - ie it refuses to re-initialise. I'm using an ATi Rage Pro 3D AGP card which is pretty tolerant until pushed over the edge. With the FSB running at 133MHz the AGP bus is running faster than spec (66MHz) @ 87MHz (or thereabouts). Although I found that my PIII 550E o/c to 733MHz using RV125 BIOS works fine and reboots OK whenever I need it to do so, however I sometimes get the problem you are experiencing with SH125 BIOS. I'm using PC100 RAM backed of to 3's in RAS/CAS settings, and I've increased the core voltage to 1.7v. All in all I'm very impressed considering my memory is only PC100 (and so's the PC's memory :) ). Also check your FSB/PCI bus settings - 1/3 is going to give a PCI bus speed of 40MHz (which is 7MHz over spec) - I have mine set to 1/4 at FSB 133, which gives a PCI bus speed of 33MHz (bang on spec). I tried o/c'ing my BE6-II to about 820 MHz the other week. It worked OK until I tried to reboot - nothing! I had to reset the BIOS - then again that's what I deserved!!

I've never had any problems with the hpt370..just install the drivers, plug the hard drive in and it worked.. The only problem I've had so far is that I can't get softfsb to work with the motherboard..or find a satisfactory replacement. Any ideas?
From: Homer
With mains power off try actuating the dip switches several times, there have been reports of stuck switches. Put them all back to default and see if it works.

I'm experienced with Windows 2000 Professional and have installed it on a BE6-II without issue.... until now.

I'm on my 5th clean install on the same BE6-II system and don't know what's up.

I've installed the HPT 366 Drivers without issue, I've even gone as far as diabling the HPT and installing a Promise controller, removing the NIC, Pulling out the Video Card and installing a PCI card - I don't know what's going on.

After a complete install the system fires up and goes right into Windows 2000 Pro, logs in as administrator right to the desktop and all. Unfortunately, the next time I shut down and attempt to bring the system back up, Windows 2000 Pro crashes and says:
"Windows 2000 could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \WINNT\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM
From: DRCray
I'm now using the HPT/366 Controller. The problem was caused by having a CDROM Drive as a Master, and a JUMPERED ZIP100 Drive as a slave on IDE 1. I removed the slave jumper from the ZIP Drive and now Windows 2000 waits for the Hard Drive on the Ultra/66 Controller to park before it shuts down. Apparently Windows 2000 was checking the ZIP Drive on IDE 1 to see if it was writing before sending the Cut Power command. When it saw that the Zip Drive was idle, it cut the power, ignoring the Ultra/66 or SCSI controllers.

How do I install ACPI on my Win98 computer?
From: TomG
Well, if ACPI or APM were disabled, that would prevent the system from shutting off all the way. Also, if ACPI was disabled at install time, you cannot just enable it and expect it to take effect... you have to set a registry flag and then do a hardware detection. You can find out if ACPI is installed into windows by looking in device manager and looking under system devices... if you see acpi there, it is installed.

If it is not installed, first, copy the contents of \win98 directory from the cd to a hard drive because you will loose the cd for a time during hardware detection. Then, run regedit and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Detect and create a new DWORD key and name it ACPIOption. Double click on the new ACPIOption key and set it to 1. Close regedit and then do the hardware detection in control panel (Add New Hardware) and ACPI should be detected.

When Windows asks for files, point it to the folder you copied to the hard drive from the cd.

From: Steve
I was having lockup issues until highpoint told me to change all my drives to cable select. Working fine now.
From: Pepe
I solved my six month problem with the HPT366 like this: Flashed bios to BEH_SH126 and got the 126 drivers for Win98 at TomG's mirror Abit server at <link broken, sorry>, did a clean install in IDE 1 and got everything working right with the HPT disabled in bios. Then I enabled the HPT, moved the drives to IDE 3, blue to the mobo, black to the Boot disk, grey to the other and changed the jumpers setting both discs to Cable select. Booted computer, got HDDs recognized at UDMA 4, installed drivers from floppy, shut down the computer. Rebooted once again, and bingo! Everything worked!

From: The Abit Infopage (see "Links")
A user reported on alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit that unselecting "Sync Data Transfer" in the hard disk's properties (Start/Settings/Control Panel/System/Device Manager/Disk Drives) solved this problem.
From: Dave
I found that a program called SETI@Home was messing with the system (W2K). It was causing HDD controller errors and the strange behaviour of my floppy drive also. I have upgraded the software to a new version (3.0) and all my woes are gone! I am pleased..... I not only had floppy drive trouble, I was having Soundblaster Live trouble (static) too. Now all is well. I never thought that a piece of software could play such havok on my system.

From: Dennis D

Hey Jeff here is a part of the mail I received from the representitive of Abit here in Hollandon the Geforce GTS, I don't mind you using this text for the site but as I stated in my remark, besides publishing the info on their site or near the products, Abit was very kind and helpful... the reseller was the bad guy in my case.

Translated Uk part of the reaction :
.......
Here is a part of the official ECN of Abit (Engineers Change Notice)

BE6-II/BF6 (ECN no: AR43000702) Jul 05
Reason: Fixes NV 15 compatible problem.
Description: Changes 0.1UF(0603) capacitor for C49.
*** All Stock ***
As you know NV15 is the official codename for the Geforce II GTS chipset.
On the boards a capacitor must be replaced to solve the problem.
......

Personal notes :
Remark: Nothing to blaim Abit for... the distrbutor (NL in my case) was very helpfull !! It was mainly the reseller (www.harddata.nl) who was more a problem because of the lack of knowledge of the products they sell and/or their interest of keeping up with developments in the hardware business (other than prices and margins) !!

For example some comments of the reseller (before contacting and receiving this reaction from Abit) And so I contacted the local Abit import company with success and good service.. I blame the reseller... THEY could have the information also if they show interest in their business and wanna know WHAT they sell.. THEY could call Abit for me I am a good customer not a "user who broke his automatic coffee holder in the PC".

From: Jeff
Check your Device Manager for "Ghost" devices, or duplicates of existing hardware. They are only visible in Safe Mode. In Win98 press "Ctrl" when starting the computer to bring up the Safe Mode option. Enter Device Manager (a neat shortcut is to hold down the "Win" key [key with the little flag], then press the "Pause" key) and look for duplicates of hardware and delete them. I found that I had to delete the first instance of the device. When I deleted the second they all came back.

Check Device Manager first for real duplicates that should not be removed like the HPT drivers under "SCSI Controllers".

These duplicates can cause lockups. Although I haven't had many troubles, I found about 7 duplicate devices. Several were Sound Blaster related, this could be from moving cards around. One interesting note was the duplicate SB16 Emulation that was also disabled like the normal one.

As always please be aware of risks when screwing around and back up before changing anything.

From: Robert Davis
Drive 1: UDMA 100 IBM 45gb drive on HPT366 controller #1
Drive 2: UDMA 66 IBM 20gb on controller #2.
Mobo: BE6-II v1.0 (UH bios)
Highpoint bios: v1.28
Highpoint Win98 driver: v1.26

The first drive is a recent upgrade, and the second was the former boot drive. I realize there is some issue with this mobo running the UDMA 100 IBM drive, but I'm not sure what the problem is supposed to be, even with the Highpoint v1.25 bios and v1.25 Win98 drivers, and it has been running fine. I upgraded to v1.26 Win98 drivers, which was supposed to fix whatever the problem was with the pairing, but did nothing that I could discern.

When first installed, the 45gb drive would boot up as a UDMA 4 drive, but the 20gb would only go in as a UDMA 3. Someone on this newsgroup suggested using IBM's "Feature Tool," which I did--and now the first drive boots as a UDMA 2 and the second as a UDMA 4. When I used the tool, I set the first drive down from a 5 (default) to a 4 and left the second drive at 4. Now when booting, the HPT366 bios sees it as a UDMA 2! When I try to change, there are no options greater than UDMA 2, and when I select something else it defaults to UDMA 2 regardless of where it is set! I changed back to the drive's default of 5 with IBM's utility, which changed nothing--then back to 4, where it ought to be.

Next, I DL'd Abit's beta v1.28 bios for the HPT366 controller, and that made no difference at all. It still boots as a UDMA 2 drive and UDMA 3 or 4 aren't even options for it. Oddly, when running benchmarks in Win98SE the results are similar to those achieved before using IBM's utility. Norton physical test was 4.8 for the first, 3.5 for the second. A result of 4.5 is "mid-range" and about 8 for "high-end" drives. I would think this drive would approach "high-end," unless this means the latest SCSI screamer. With SiSoft Sandra 2001's benchmark I get about 11500 with the first, 10000 for the second drive. A UDMA 66 drive should read 13000 and a UDMA 33 about 8500, according to their benchmark comparison chart.

Odd as it may seem, I went back into the bios for the tenth time at least, only this time I first opened the boot-preference menu and toggled the boot preference from IDE3 to 4 and then back. When I returned back to the mode menu my options were back again! Too weird. Now it boots as a UDMA 4 like it should, as does the second drive. Go figure, but it runs only slightly better according to the benchmarks.

From: Jeff
I put a stick of RAM in and had no trouble until I played Quake 3, then the game would lock up. I had 1 stick of Crucial 128M PC133 ECC and added an identical 256M stick in slot 2. Swapping the larger module to the first slot didn't work. It was only when I put the 128M stick in slot 3 that the trouble went away. This was not a corrupt file in the game, I have it installed on 2 partitions and both had the same problem.



Created by Jeff Davidson
Boca Raton, Florida, USA
© Febuary 10, 2000